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1878 - 1972 (94 years)
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Name |
KING Herbert William |
Birth |
20 Jun 1878 |
Peldon, Essex, England [2] |
Gender |
Male |
Baptism |
25 Jul 1880 |
Peldon=>Colchester, Essex, England [3] |
- (bapt register shows "son of George and Isabella King".)
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Census |
1901 |
Virley, Essex, England [4] |
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Census |
1920 |
Orange, Essex, New Jersey [5] |
Address: 464 Center Street |
- (age 42; operator, Edison Manufacturing; renting a home on Center Street.)
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Occupation |
1941 |
East Orange, Essex, New Jersey [6] |
janitor for William Beck, Superintendent |
Address: 209 Prospect St. |
Residence |
1941 |
East Orange, Essex, New Jersey [6] |
Address: 137 Lindsley Pl. |
Social Security Number |
148-12-8847 [7] |
_UID |
F09E616AC09C4E8580649569751DCC06CE6F |
Death |
Sep 1972 [7] |
Notes |
- On the 1881 census Herbert was 9 months old, living with his parents in Peldon.
On the 1891 census Herbert was aged 10 living with his parents in Peldon.
On the 1901 census Herbert was aged 20 living with father & stepmother in Virley.
Herbert must have emigrated to USA between 1901 and 1906. I have not been able to find an entry for him on ship's manifest or Ellis Island as "Herbert King". His name must have been mis-recorded.
"Herbert King, aged 27, born England, son of George King and Isabella Mortlock" married Catherine Wilson on 31/10/1906 in Manhattan, New York.
Familysearch.org has a 1920 census for Herbert King aged 42, living with wife Katherine and daughters Maryand Laura in Essex, New Jersey.
Familysearch.org also has a census 1930 for Herbert W King, aged 52, living with wife Catherine and daughters Mary and Laura in Orange, Essex, New Jersey.
Familysearch.org also has a WW2 Registration card for "Herbert William King, born 20/6/1878 in Peldon, Essex, England, living at 137 Lindsley Pl, East Orange, NJ". He gave his employer as William Becks, 209 Prospect St, East Orange, Essex, NJ.
Familysearch.org also has a US Social Security Death Index entry for Herbert King "born 20/6/1878, died September 1972 in Orange, NJ".
I have not found any record of Herbert taking out US citizenship, nor have I found a Passport for him.
All of the UK records for Herbert King are consistent regarding his birth in 1880. I can think of no reason for George and Isabella to have misrepresented Herbert's birth details.
The records for Herbert in USA give his year of birth as 1878/9. There was no Herbert King birth registered in Lexden district in 1878/9. Quite why he may have "added" a couple of years to his age when he got to USA, I do not know. Maybe there was a minimum age for residence/marriage/employment? Maybe he wanted to apply for a job and the employer was looking for someone older? Maybe there was a clerical error on a document when he first got to USA and he felt he had to carry on giving the same date? There could be any number of reasons why the dates of birth differ.
On his marriage certificate, Herbert declared that he had been born in England and that his parents' names were George King and Isabella Mortlock. There was only one "George King/Isabella Mortlock" marriage recorded in the index for England, which was the couple who lived in Peldon/Virley. On his WW2 registration card, Herbert declared his place of birth as Peldon, Essex, England. The combination of those two documents seems to suggest that the Herbert in USA was the one born 1880 in Peldon. There is an exact match for his two Christian names, father's name, mother's maiden name and place of birth. [Jane King]
I suspect my great uncle worked in the facility Thomas Edison built in West Orange, now a national park. GE, started by Edison and originally called Edison General Electric, (but never controlled by him) made its headquarters in Schenectady NY and was the place of employment a decade later or more for Lyman Holder, Christina Tasker's husband.
"The large size of the laboratory not only allowed Edison to work on any sort of project, but also allowed him to work on as many as ten or twenty projects at once. Facilities were added to the laboratory or modified to meet Edison's changing needs as he continued to work in this complex until his death in 1931. Over the years, factories to manufacture Edison inventions were built around the laboratory. The entire laboratory and factory complex eventually covered more than twenty acres and employed 10,000 people at its peak during World War One (1914-1918)...."
[submitted by Deborah (Tasker) Sena 19 Dec 2010.]
Name:
Herbert W King
Event:
Census
Event Date:
1930
Event Place:
Orange, Essex, New Jersey
Gender:
Male
Age:
52
Marital Status:
Married
Race:
White
Birthplace:
England
Estimated Birth Year:
1878
Immigration Year:
1904
Relationship to Head of Household:
Head
Father's Birthplace:
England
Mother's Birthplace:
England
Enumeration District Number:
0576
Family Number:
262
Sheet Number and Letter:
11A
Line Number:
7
NARA Publication:
T626, roll 1343
Film Number:
2341078
Digital Folder Number:
4660896
Image Number:
00225
Household
Gender
Age
Herbert W King
M
52
Spouse
Cathrine King
F
53
Child
Mary W King
F
17
Child
Laura A King
F
14
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Person ID |
I676 |
Tasker Database |
Last Modified |
3 Nov 2011 |
Father |
KING George Alfred, b. 14 Nov 1858, Peldon=>Colchester, Essex, England d. 10 Feb 1941, Virley, Essex, England (Age 82 years) |
Mother |
MORTLOCK Isabella, b. 31 May 1859, Peldon=>Colchester, Essex, England d. 27 Jun 1893 (Age 34 years) |
Marriage |
16 Feb 1878 |
Lexden=>Colchester, Essex, England [3, 8] |
- ("George Alfred King, 19, bachelor of Peldon, son of William James King, married Isabella Mortlock, 18, spinster of Peldon, daughter of Elijah Mortlock on 16/2/1878 in Peldon, witnessed by Frederick Adolphus King and Emily Ann Baldwin" (George's brother and sister). FreeBMD says Mar 1878.)
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Family ID |
F119 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Family |
WILSON Catherine, b. CA 1877, Scotland d. Yes, date unknown |
Marriage |
31 Oct 1906 |
Manhattan, New York, New York [9] |
Children |
| 1. KING Mary, b. 12 Oct 1912, Manhattan, New York, New York d. Jul 1976, , , New Jersey (Age 63 years) |
| 2. KING Laura, b. 9 Sep 1915, Manhattan, New York, New York d. 15 Dec 1989, , , Florida (Age 74 years) |
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Family ID |
F168 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Last Modified |
17 Mar 2018 |
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Sources |
- [S192] Correspondence-Email-SENA Deborah (TASKER), US-UK birth discrepancies King brothers- how to handle? resolvable? Same people or not?; 9/26/2011; Paul M. Noyes.
- [S90] Birth-SSDI, 148-12-8847.
- [S192] Correspondence-Email-SENA Deborah (TASKER), FW: Peldon Kings- details from Jane; 31 October 2011; Paul M. Noyes.
Notes from Jane King.
- [S192] Correspondence-Email-SENA Deborah (TASKER), forgot I saved this- 1901 British census- King; 30 October 2011; Paul M. Noyes.
https://novascotiagenealogy.com/ItemView.aspx?ImageFile=1800-12486&Event=marriage&ID=203013
- [S206] Census-1920-NJ-Essex-Orange, Roll T625_1039; Page: 8A; Enumeration District: 299; Image: 787.
- [S145] Military-WWII Draft Registration Cards, Serial Number U-1776.
- [S91] Death-SSDI (Rootsweb), 148-12-8847.
- [S216] Manuscript-Essex Mortlocks, p.77.
- [S101] Marriage Civil Records, Manhattan certificate #27566.
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